> In some cases, criminal records appear to be a factor. Other instances have reportedly included minor legal infractions like driving over the speed limit. But "a lot" of those targeted have been involved in pro-Palestinian protests, Secretary of State Marco Rubio himself has said.
Have there been any successful legal challenges and wins on this front?
I find a lot are surprised by the rules around student visas. These were always “walking on shells” type visas. The port of entry officers can cancel it based on a vague hunch. It can be cancelled from breaking university rules. It may not seem fair but it’s always been like that.
A 1st amendment appeal is worth trying as defense strategy for protesters but the response to it is usually that the students are not sent to prison, they are merely “sent home”.
This is also a golden moment for EU and other countries to say “come here instead” and make that process as smooth as possible.
> This is also a golden moment for EU and other countries to say “come here instead” and make that process as smooth as possible
It's walking on egg shells in other countries as well - either requiring upfront cash in the $30-50k range as proof of funds, or limited ability to convert into residency or a work visa.
More fundamentally, at least in STEM the cream of the crop of a lot of countries doesn't really immigrate to settle anymore because domestic options can pay comparable or higher than those in the EU or the Commonwealth. At best they will study abroad for grad school at a top program, work for a couple years, and then return to the old country because of family commitments and upward growth potential.
This trend already began among Koreans in the 2000s, Chinese in the 2010s, and now among Indians as well.
The EU might have had a chance attracting top talent from MENA, but xenophobia and low salaries+high taxes made UAE and KSA more enticing (German level salaries for white collar work, no taxes, and easier to blend in).
The problem is the policy is following exactly what Hitler did.
There was another article that showed up fairly recently here on HN that covers this. When Hitler rose to power in his efforts to clamp down he drove all the brilliant and foreign talent out and the schools never recovered. What took 200 years to build, was completely destroyed in several months.
> In some cases, criminal records appear to be a factor. Other instances have reportedly included minor legal infractions like driving over the speed limit. But "a lot" of those targeted have been involved in pro-Palestinian protests, Secretary of State Marco Rubio himself has said.
Have there been any successful legal challenges and wins on this front?
I find a lot are surprised by the rules around student visas. These were always “walking on shells” type visas. The port of entry officers can cancel it based on a vague hunch. It can be cancelled from breaking university rules. It may not seem fair but it’s always been like that.
A 1st amendment appeal is worth trying as defense strategy for protesters but the response to it is usually that the students are not sent to prison, they are merely “sent home”.
This is also a golden moment for EU and other countries to say “come here instead” and make that process as smooth as possible.
the more worrying thing here is why does the state of israel control US visas’s policy
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> This is also a golden moment for EU and other countries to say “come here instead” and make that process as smooth as possible
It's walking on egg shells in other countries as well - either requiring upfront cash in the $30-50k range as proof of funds, or limited ability to convert into residency or a work visa.
More fundamentally, at least in STEM the cream of the crop of a lot of countries doesn't really immigrate to settle anymore because domestic options can pay comparable or higher than those in the EU or the Commonwealth. At best they will study abroad for grad school at a top program, work for a couple years, and then return to the old country because of family commitments and upward growth potential.
This trend already began among Koreans in the 2000s, Chinese in the 2010s, and now among Indians as well.
The EU might have had a chance attracting top talent from MENA, but xenophobia and low salaries+high taxes made UAE and KSA more enticing (German level salaries for white collar work, no taxes, and easier to blend in).
The problem is the policy is following exactly what Hitler did.
There was another article that showed up fairly recently here on HN that covers this. When Hitler rose to power in his efforts to clamp down he drove all the brilliant and foreign talent out and the schools never recovered. What took 200 years to build, was completely destroyed in several months.
https://undark.org/2017/02/01/math-lesson-hitlers-germany/
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